Updated: 03/02/08
THE CREATOR GOD STRIKES OUT!
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Every possible form, which
energy and/or matter can take, must be in use and exists today in time and
space (within and without). Why? We are always in the middle of
Eternity. Eternity is a two way street. Eternity runs both ways don't you know.
These forms will include outside universes about which we know nothing. It will
include the universe within (the esoteric – and other dimensions). It will
include undiscovered transformations of energy/matter, and any other undiscovered
condition, forms or expressions that energy and/or matter may take.
(A word needs to be said
about “plasma” which is a form of both energy and matter. Plasma seems to be
more important in the development of galaxies, suns (stars) and planets than does
gravity. Indeed, between all stars, galaxies and planets are beams of plasma
that seem to form a connection that transfers energy and information from one
body to another. Plasma produces electric currents and magnetic attractions and
rejections which now seems to be the power that forms bodies in space and
determines their orbits along with gravity.)
When we speak of a God here,
we are only speaking of that concept foisted upon us by the Christian religion,
which claims that an Intelligent God is the Creator and Designer of all that
is. They claim a God was preexistent. That is, before there was anything, there
was a God. We must remember that there is no God named “God.” You must give
this God a name and some attributes.
By using this Christian
definition, we are eliminating the many varied little concepts of a God. Most
of those activities, miracles and controversies in the Bible and other holy
books (if they are true) could also be attributed to some super race of
long-lived aliens, and they need not be classified as gods. Aliens could easily
possess powers, technologies and abilities that seem god like to our infant
science. But, these are only advancements, which some day even we may possess.
So, we are only dealing with the Christian concept of a Creator God.
To say that before anything
existed, a God existed, is an oxymoron. Such a statement can neither be
understood nor conceived by our minds. It cannot possibly be true and here is
why. If a God existed, then that God is something. And something is not
nothing. So, the universe could not possibly have come from nothing. It must
have come from something even if that something was a God. Thom's law explains
that.
Thom's Law
"Nothing cannot produce something.
If there were
ever a time when there was nothing
there would STILL
be nothing." *
*For a more comprehensive
understanding of Thom's Law click here.
Even a God, (which is
something) could not be produced by nothing. Therefore, if a God came into
being, he must have come out of something else. The only "something"
that exists now and has always existed is that of energy and/or matter.
So, any God (or anything
else) must be, or must have been, the product of something. Everything,
which is, must be a product of energy and/or matter. Even thoughts are
energy and cannot be separated from the thinker.
Now that is strike one
against the Christians who say that a God preexisted nothing. Or, as some say,
a God coexisted with nothing. That is, while there was nothing, there was also
a God. Unless, of course, you wish to claim that God IS nothing. I could
accept that claim. But if the Christians accepted that claim, there would be no
grounds for this discussion and no discussers. So, you cannot have a God,
(which is something) and say that before him, there was nothing. You cannot
claim that a God coexisted with nothing because a God is something. Nothing cannot coexist with
anything except itself. You must either start with a God, which is
something (and came from something else) or you must start with nothing, which
can produce nothing. For sure, you cannot have it both ways. If there is a God,
he is something and something cannot come out of nothing. Fasten your seat
belts because we will navigate through this dilemma.
Strike two says, since there
was something that must have predated a God, God could not have created
everything. He could not have created himself (herself or it) if God was not
itself to start with. The original God (himself/herself/it) would have to be developed
from something that was NOT a God. God is claimed to have knowledge and
character (an attribute). Knowledge and character MUST be developed. It cannot be
decreed. It cannot be magically waved into existence. Knowledge and character
is a Product of intelligence, life, and living. It is a product of
making wise and foolish choices. It is a product of growth.
Did a God have the knowledge
to create or make a universe? Where did he develop that knowledge? It is
inconceivable that God simply sneezed and the universe came into being. I don't
think even the Christians would believe that.
To have the knowledge to
create, or even to make a universe, God must have had some prior
experience, some development, some trials and errors in how and why this worked
and that did not. (Is It possible that our universe may be one of God’s early
flawed experiments?) Also, the Christians claim lots of wonderful attributes
for their God. God is all-good. God is all-great. God is all-just. God is
all-wise. God is all-knowing. God is everywhere. God is all-powerful, and so
forth.
That is, the Christians give
God a good, moral and powerful character. Now character cannot be developed in
a vacuum either. Character must be developed by trial and error. Character is
developed by finding out what is good and what works. To do this one must also
find out what is bad and does not work. Character must always answer the
question, "Why?" in order to develop. Character is also a growth
process.
Therefore, there must have
been other individuals and intelligences with whom God could interact in order
to develop a good character. There must be at least a family of them. So, God
is not alone. Other intelligence demands some type of setting in which they
could interact. They must have a place, a home of sorts. We now must allow God
to have at least a family, a home and a setting, or a place of operating, in
order to develop his character. That is strike two against a Creator God being
by HIMSELF, and at the same time having both a good character and ultimate
science knowledge. God could not decree himself a good character or vast
scientific knowledge. He would not know what was good or what to decree. He
must have developed that knowledge.
In addition to this, God
talked! How could a God language develop without other like beings with whom to
communicate? Come on now! Think about it!
Next, we come to strike
three. If there was something out of which God came, then there was already
material available to make a universe. That is, God could not possibly have
created the universe. However, God could have MADE the universe. That is, he
could have taken the material that was available and MADE the universe out of
that.
The Christian information about an Intelligently
Designed and Created Universe comes from a mistranslation of the Jewish
Testament. The Jewish text reads:
"In beginning, the GODS MADE the heaven
and the earth."
The Christians CHANGED that to read:
"In THE beginning, GOD CREATED
the heaven and the earth."
In other words, the concept
of a creation stems from a MISTRANSLATION - from a mistake, from a LIE. Think
about that!
Either the God of the Old
Testament made a mistake and used the word "made" when he should have
used the word "create" in telling us about a beginning, or the New
Testament God made a mistake and used the word "create" instead of
the word "made" to describe a beginning. In other words, one of these
Gods is lying to us. Which God is lying to us?
Since the Old Testament God
told his tale first and then the New Testament God plagiarized and edited his
work, I must assume the New Testament God is the real liar in this case. Of
course, if you do not wish to give the New Testament God the credit for this
lie, you could give that credit to the creators and writers of the new holy
book.
There are those Christians
who say (in spite of Thom's law) that God did come out of nothing. I have some
questions. Is God supposed to be greater than the universe? The Christians and
the Jews say, "Yes." Then why didn't NOTHING create something smaller
or less significant than a God in its first effort at creation? Why didn't
NOTHING do something simple first? How would NOTHING have the wisdom to make
something more important and more complex than itself, more important and
complex than the whole universe? Why didn't NOTHING make the universe first and
then make a God?
How did NOTHING make a God
when it had not yet discovered how to make the hydrogen atom? The effort of
making a God would have challenged all the resources of NOTHING, which
resources of course are zero. Hydrogen atoms would not have strained the
efforts, knowledge and power of NOTHING nearly as much as making something
greater than the whole universe.
Did you know that believers
in all ages have created gods? Today believers can create gods too! They make
lots of gods using only the twenty-six letters of the English alphabet.
Now it is a fact, you cannot
put a strain on zero (nothing). You can multiply it. You can divide it. You can
add it. You can kick zero around, abuse it, smash it, cast it aside and guess
what? It is still a perfect zero. So, I do here by declare ZERO to be the only
perfect number in the universe. Nothing you can do to it changes the value of
zero. It is always and forever - zero. You just cannot get anything out of zero
except ZERO. And nothing is zero. And zero is nothing. A God did not and COULD
NOT come out of ZERO.
We see, the Christian
concept of a creator God goes down on a called strike three. From now on, the
creator God must take his seat on the bench next to the rest of the religious
gods who struck out. A God could not have preexisted that from which he came.
He could not create himself. He could not create the universe without vast
knowledge, which he must have learned by trial and error. He could not have
learned without other intelligence with whom to interact. He could not have
created the universe from nothing when material (energy/matter) was already
available from which to make it. The Creator God strikes out. Did I mention
that God could not have created herself if she was not herself to begin with?
Since there is no creator
God, maybe there is a Maker God. Let us examine that next.
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Coming next: THE MAKER GOD IS THROWN OUT!
What is the PURPOSE of the
Universe?
You need to read Thom’s Law
before you are through with this subject!
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Copyright
July 1999 Thomas E. Blaylock Jr.
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